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Old 10-16-2011, 02:45 AM  frankgon4 is offline     #1 (permalink)
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Is 45 Colt good for bear defense?
Question stems from my brother going hiking in Montana and he carried a Redhawk .44 magnum wiith 7 1/2 inch barrel for bear defense.
The man he was hiking with carried a Ruger single action .45 Colt.
Personally, I would want a double action for bear defense.
Curious about the ability of the 45 Colt for stopping Bears. Mostly Black Bears, but possible to come across a grizzly.
Yes, I know a rifle/shotgun is better, but this is what they were carrying.
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Old 10-16-2011, 03:11 AM  Kappy is offline     #2 (permalink)
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My understanding was that you wanted a .44 or better. The .45 supposedly doesn't have the power...

But black bears are smaller...

Best bet... take a friend along with you, shoot him with your .45 in the leg once, and run away. You don't have to outrun the bear... you just have to outrun everyone else.
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Old 10-16-2011, 07:51 AM  mustangpalmer1911 is offline     #3 (permalink)
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When I went to Alaska a couple years back I brought my 44 Mag for defense. I found bear tracks the size of both my hands + and made me think hmmmmmmmmmm I think I might as well brought a .22.

2nd story the guy I got the 338 mag from got his first Grizzly with it. They were stalking a larger bear they had seen when they surprised this bear. The bear charged and it took 6 shots from a 338 mag to put the thing down. He said 4 of the shots never even penetrated the the bear stopping in the fat/muscle of the chest.

I think my thoughts are. 2 hunters go hunting in grizzly territory one brings a 44 mag the other brings a 500 S&W. They argue for days over which will stop a charging bear better. Finally they decide to ask their old timer guide who had lived/hunted in the area all his life. The old guide pulls out a .22 Derringer and says the .22. Both hunter cant believe it and ask how/what. The old timer tells them it will hurt alot less when the bear shoves it up you're ass.

For black bear I think a 45 Colt would be enough for bigger bears ......................
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Old 10-16-2011, 10:23 AM  Geek is offline     #4 (permalink)
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LOL, nice Palmer.

I can't really say one way or the other. My wife, a friend, and I were hiking in Japan and we saw a bear print that was about twice the size of my wife's hand. Pretty sure it was a black bear only because I'm not sure whether or not they have any other bear species there. Either way we didn't have a gun. No spray, nada. Just bear bells to announce "dinner's ready!"
 
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LOL, I did tell him to take a .22 with him and kneecap the other guy and run.

He did say that he did not like carrying the weight of the .44 magnum for all day hikes, but their have been bear attacks this year where he was hiking.
I would carry my 19 inch barreled 10 gauge loaded with 1 3/4 ounce slugs. (That's 765 grains). I hope it would be enough.
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Old 10-16-2011, 11:27 AM  Larry D. is offline     #6 (permalink)
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The Ruger's 45LC's can be loaded up to damn near 44mag spec.

I'd never do it, but I hear they can handle it.

Personally, I'd want a rifle for bear defense, but that's a whole 'nother issue.
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45colt can be loaded up to some 44mag speeds. In Ruger/Freedom Arms SA only!
These guys make some Bussiness 45colt loads
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Alaska fish and game recommends 12 gauge with 00 and slugs alternating.
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Alaska fish and game recommends 12 gauge with 00 and slugs alternating.
So my 10 gauge would be adequate?
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45colt can be loaded up to some 44mag speeds. In Ruger/Freedom Arms SA only!
These guys make some Bussiness 45colt loads
Heavy .45 Colt +P Pistol & Handgun Ammunition

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Thanks, I like their Heavy 45 Colt +P Ammo - 325 gr. L.B.T.-L.F.N. (1,325 fps/M.E. 1,267 ft. lbs.)
Says it can be safely loaded in Blackhawk, Super Blackhawk, all pre-2005 Vaquero, Bisley, Redhawk - Which all seem to be Ruger's for some reason.
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