Ethics question

[1911shooter]

I know from first Experiance that our courts and D.A.'s are not blood thirsty scum only out to hang citizens, Is the system flawed yes, It's not perfect. But cleaning up your brass and concealing the fact you were involved will be even worse then sticking around, and waiting for the cops.
I for one can replace the money in my wallet, and my possessions, If it comes to my family and loved ones then he will be down, and I will sort it out with the D.A. and a Jury If need be.

In any shooting unless you were wrong to begin with there is no reason to police your brass, and leave the sceene,. I have seen guy's who tried to conceal their shooting's and it didnt go well for them, Un less you have a totally inept Lawyer who could find his way out of a paper bag, with a little explaination and a few smart questions, there is no reason to fear you'r LEGAL shooting, I have only been involved in one case where the shooting was not justified and there was no way that was a legal shooting. If you are that worried about you shooting, God forbid anyone of us ever has to go through it, then maybe we should be looking for a new means to protect ourselves.

I dont have Millions of dollars to defend myself either, but Like I said even if I lose everything because I had to kill someone who was trying to kill me or mine, I will take that chance,

Thinking of what will happen in the aftermath of a shooting, will cause you to not defend yourself, and if that happens I dont want to be reading about an R.I.P. thread about one of our members,

Mind set is the #1 thing we need to remember here, And that all starts with knowing you can deal with the aftermath of the shooting, no matter what.

Untill then if we can not do that then we should not be carrying a firearm.

Scott.

Comments

Good post!

[Jake]

I think the mileage of how you would do in court would depend on what city you were in and the ethnic makeup of the community and the likely jury makeup you would find. In Lubbock, if I'm not in an area of town I know to stay out of in the first place at the wrong time of day or night, I have no problem with facing a jury regardless of the race of the person who neccessitated the shooting. Were I in Albuquerque and shot a hispanic druggie trying to mug me for drug money, I might face some jurors whose kids or relatives were druggies and they were sypathetic to druggies, if that is possible. If I were in Southern California and a celebrity, I wouldn't worry at all.

[Kappy]

Aren't those jurors as likely to be victims?

[Jake]

Too often, we hear of folks robbing other folks who are described in the news "He was such a good boy, never caused any problems and was loved by all!" Do you really want to look at going up against those who might be sympathetic if you live in a liberal sector. I live in a conservative sector, not really worried about shooting the good kid who attacked or tried to attack me with a knife.

[Kappy]

I'm not really worried. See... in your scenario, it only takes one idiot to kill the conviction. The same is true with you getting arrested for self defense.

[Kappy]

I'm sorry... I should have been more clear... you're as likely (perhaps even more likely) to find someone who thinks that druggies should be executed on sight and are glad you did what you did, regardless of the law.

I disagree with either, of course. People should judge without prejudice... but if I'm in the situation, I'd probably pray for a Charles Bronson.

[1911shooter]

Like Kappy said all it takes is 1 out of 12 to not convict you, And in a case where you have shot a druggie, for trying to rob you of money for more drug's you will more then likely find that one juror who will not give a guilty plea,
And on the flip side of that, if you are in a drug ridden area, most people on that jury are probable, Fed up with the drug dealers and users that you will find 12 likely not to convict.

But it's like I said in my earlier post, Those are things you cannot have enter your head when it comes time to deal with the threat in front of you then and there. Before you even bought your first Firearm to carry in defense of your life and that of your family, you should have thought about this and not when it comes time to use your firearm.


One of the things most important to self defense is relizing that your firearm in not the most important thing you have to use,

use your head, if you know an area is dangerous dont go there, if it has your favorite store with the lowest prices, find another that sells the same thing, yeah it may cost more, but is that few dollars worth your life?

If your route to work takes you through bad area's at certain times, take another route, will it cost you more in gas? maybe but i would rather spend more on gas then be dead.

When walking near buildings dont walk agaist the wall try to stay more in the middle so you can see around corners and react quicker.

when driving make sure you dont box yourself in at stop lights, when you stop behind someone make sure you can see the bottoms of their tires on tha pavement, that way you have room to drive out from behind them if something happens.

Remember in a vehicle you have the most effective means of protection, you can drive off, and if need be runover the threat or use it as a battering ram to more the threat vehicle out of the way,


Let's not forget that givin the opertunity, back out of it, walk or run away, It is more manly to live and provide for your family then to be stupid and die. If given the choice I'm walking away and going home to my family, I will call 911 from a safe place give a complete description of my assailint and a report of the incident to them,

The other thing to remember is be the first to call 911, as when you do wheather its you who was right, or he who was wrong the first to call always becomes the complaintent, and the other becomes the assailint.


Scott.